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Muslim Inbreeding: Impacts on intelligence, sanity, health and society

Seeded on Sat Aug 14, 2010 7:38 PM EDT
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Has massive inbreeding within the Muslim culture during the last 1.400 years may have done catastrophic damage to their gene pool? The consequences of intermarriage between first cousins often have serious impact on the offspring's intelligence, sanity, health and on their surroundings

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A rough estimate shows that close to half of all Muslims in the world are inbred: In Pakistan, 70 percent of all marriages are between first cousins (so-called "consanguinity") and in Turkey the amount is between 25-30 percent (Jyllands-Posten, 27/2 2009 More stillbirths among immigrants"

Statistical research on Arabic countries shows that up to 34 percent of all marriages in Algiers are consanguine (blood related), 46 percent in Bahrain, 33 percent in Egypt, 80 percent in Nubia (southern area in Egypt), 60 percent in Iraq, 64 percent in Jordan, 64 percent in Kuwait, 42 percent in Lebanon, 48 percent in Libya, 47 percent in Mauritania, 54 percent in Qatar, 67 percent in Saudi Arabia, 63 percent in Sudan, 40 percent in Syria, 39 percent in Tunisia, 54 percent in the United Arabic Emirates and 45 percent in Yemen (Reproductive Health Journal, 2009 Consanguinity and reproductive health among Arabs.).

wow.

  • 5 votes
Reply#1 - Sat Aug 14, 2010 7:40 PM EDT
Simplistic Reality

All leading by example of there prophet muhammed who even had a 9 year old wife. Sick and perverted.

  • 4 votes
#1.1 - Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:31 PM EDT
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alan-333244

They should have laws against cousins marrying Yuck! It explains alot about their values.

  • 3 votes
Reply#2 - Sat Aug 14, 2010 11:19 PM EDT
Simplistic Reality

They have religious laws that rein supreme to regular laws. That is the problem. No separation of church and state. That's one of the huge problems right there.

  • 3 votes
#2.1 - Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:58 PM EDT
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DR_ZORBA

Explains a lot.....

  • 2 votes
Reply#3 - Sun Aug 15, 2010 12:39 AM EDT
GARRISON-2010

it sure does.

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#3.1 - Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:16 AM EDT
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beaz-435179

What a laugh. Men in America dash off to sperm banks, records are sealed and you could be marrying your own half brother or sister without ever knowing it. Children are put up for adoption with the same results. In certain areas of America cousins marry frequently -- example is the "bonnie and clyde" couple on the run -- engaged first cousins. Perhaps we should not be so quick to point fingers.

  • 1 vote
Reply#4 - Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:50 AM EDT
GARRISON-2010

Men in America dash off to sperm banks

What %?

What a laugh.

An amazing refutation of Scientific Study.

  • 2 votes
Reply#5 - Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:21 PM EDT
mick the biologist

Is this study then, by what it did not directly study, an implied suggestion that the smartest humans would possibly come from a complete melange of ethnic and racial bloodlines?

The article was, on its face, intended to be objective, with the possible exception of the conclusions. i dont know how well it succeeded, which is possibly why BEAZ used his sarcasm. The conclusions that were reported in the article (not necessarily the study) failed to compare one group of somewhat homogenous people with another similarly homogenous group of people but of a different behavior pattern, so any conclusions are really speculative at this point in time.

That there were conclusions which alluded to WESTERN concerns as well as Muslim concerns (whatever that means in a scientific sense, if anything), gives this seed a very eerie character, as if eugenics is good for some, but not for others, or certain types of eugenic behaviors are superior to others.

I am certainly not refuting the dangers, both physical and emotional, of human inbreeding past a generation or two. but to be fair to MUSLIMS, of which i am not one, this article about this study gives me the creeps, both as to its scientific extent (no link to the study was posted) as well as its potential intent as a tease for the extremist mentality.

BAEZ has one justifiable conclusion - fingers have joints, and can bend back toward their owners very quickly.

GARRISON, perhaps you could elaborate?

  • 3 votes
Reply#6 - Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:16 PM EDT
GARRISON-2010

BAEZ has one justifiable conclusion - fingers have joints, and can bend back toward their owners very quickly.

BAEZ can dodge whatever facts he'd like, but it would be nice to have him provide evidence for his claim.

GARRISON, perhaps you could elaborate?

it's not my study, but it looks like muslims around the world are breeding with their relatives, and the rest of us are suffering for it.

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#6.1 - Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:15 PM EDT
mick the biologist

Garrison - do you have a link to the actual study itself? i am very curious to know the exact parameters and the study author(s) conclusions.

as to Baez, and all others for that matter, we all need to supply verifiable data, in context with the hypothesis and free from inductive persuasions, in order to present any topic of controversial nature in a spirit of reason, free of predjudice.

hence, your conclusion that (we), meaning non-muslims, are (suffering) from muslim intra-familial breeding, is a statement without meaning in scientific method. the data presented in your seed refers to (arabs) on a country to country basis, not muslims. also, the percentages stated are near or less than 50 percent of intra-familial breeding. are these other (arab muslims) then not responsible for (our) suffering?

and what is suffering? how is it measured? the only conclusion i can draw from the article about the study is this: there are some arab offspring that do not compare well in certain measurements against non-arabs. if this is an indication of suffering, then would it not be those children of arabs who are suffering?

for all groups or types of humans, all of whom are, at some genotype, the progeny of intra-familial breeding, this suffering must then occur to some extent. can any pot call any kettle black?

  • 4 votes
#6.2 - Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:14 AM EDT
Simplistic Reality

I'm impressed. An actual intelligent sounding rebuttal. Newsvine has some hope after all..... :D

  • 1 vote
#6.3 - Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:35 AM EDT
GARRISON-2010

do you have a link to the actual study itself? i am very curious to know the exact parameters and the study author(s) conclusions.

mick the biologist there are various links to several studies in the seeded article-did you read it?

as to Baez, and all others for that matter

Hate to break it to you, but viners like BAEZ are to be ignored- I don't waste my time with intellectual dishonesty, no matter how cleverly it is disguised.

meaning non-muslims, are (suffering) from muslim intra-familial breeding, is a statement without meaning in scientific method

Really? Would you say that modern muslim culture is compatible with modern Western culture? Stonings, Beheadings, Behandings, Rape as penalty for being raped?

I would say that the muslim world's continued adherence to 8th Century ideologies makes sense when we come to realize the degree of in-breeding amongst the muslim peoples. Let us not forget how mant of these ISLAMIC TERRORISTS are "educated" yet they embraced suicidal tendencies. Not a perfect biological model, is it?

what is suffering? how is it measured?

Like this: 15,833 ISLAMOTERROR ATTACKS since 9/11/2001

can any pot call any kettle black?

Until another one of those groups launches a world-wide war against the INFIDELS, yes.

  • 3 votes
#6.4 - Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:08 PM EDT
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mick the biologist

Garrison - it is now clear to me that you seeded this as a prejudicial diatribe. i was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but this response uncovers your true feelings.

the article itself is a jumble of inductive reasonings, filled with many independent studies that have been cherry-picked to support the title, hence the hypothesis of the article. this is not science.

your name-calling of baez cannot be substantiated by what was written. instead you not-so-cleverly transferred your own behavior onto this person:

viners like BAEZ are to be ignored- I don't waste my time with intellectual dishonesty, no matter how cleverly it is disguised.


your conclusion that the entire muslim world adheres to ancient ideology due to in-breeding has absolutely no scientific meaning and cannot be proven in any way other than persuasion via emotional language.

Let us not forget how mant of these ISLAMIC TERRORISTS are "educated" yet they embraced suicidal tendencies. Not a perfect biological model, is it?

what biological model are you speaking of? is it the perfect model of ancient rome, or persia, or greece, or spain, or portugal, or belgium, or england, or the us of a, or atilla the hun, or any number of south asian civilizations? can you prove that any in-breeding among these folks had nothing to do with their ´perfect´form of genocide and terror?

the 15,833 terror attacks you refer to are ALL the result of ´muslim´inbreeding? really. many of them pit muslim against muslim, who have fundamental and ancient differences that they have not yet worked out, much like the many tribes in europe or africa who still continue to attack each other from time to time. in the last century, terrifying deaths destroying the lives of tens of millions were perpetrated, not by in-bred muslims, but by in-bred christians and jews, against each other.

you do not see the invasions of iraq and afghanistan as TERROR ATTACKS, but that is exactly what they are, and they are responsible for millions of deaths in less than ten years. the terror attacks in OKC and NYC were carried out, not by muslims, but christians and jews, and killed thousands of christians and jews.

lastly, the christians are the infidels. if you insist in seperating yourself from them, what group will launch a war against them, if not another group of them?

that some muslims (your inept characterization of a very large and culturally varied group of adherents to the teachings of mohammed), most of whom want nothing to do with terror in any way, are now a bit pissed off at 150 years of constant manipulation, domination and murder at the hands of nationalized christians and zionists doesn´t seem too unusual a behavior when compared to around 7000 years of continuous human mayhem, mano a mano.

i think BAEZ had you pegged from the get go. i just flushed you out into the open.


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Reply#7 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:47 AM EDT
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Garrison - it is now clear to me that you seeded this as a prejudicial diatribe. i was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but this response uncovers your true feelings.

mick the biologist is was clear to me from your first response you're not really interested in the facts as much as you are searching for an opening to launch your liberal progessive nonsense. As I said it's not too difficult to see through the online frauds no matter how cleverly they attempt to hide their intentions.

You asking for links to studies that were in the original article was a dead-giveaway that you aren't interested in any reasonable analysis of the data presented.

the article itself is a jumble of inductive reasonings, filled with many independent studies that have been cherry-picked to support the title, hence the hypothesis of the article. this is not science.

I notice you havent presented ANY evidence, that might contradict the information in any of the studies cited. You are not a scientist.

your conclusion that the entire muslim world adheres to ancient ideology due to in-breeding has absolutely no scientific meaning and cannot be proven in any way

What would Darwin say about a species that straps bombs to their children, or uses their CHILDREN AS HUMAN SHIELDS?

ancient rome, or persia, or greece, or spain, or portugal, or belgium, or england, or the us of a, or atilla the hun, or any number of south asian civilizations? can you prove that any in-breeding among these folks had nothing to do with their ´perfect´form of genocide and terror?

Can you cite the % of consanguine breeding amongst any of those people? Shall we compare their cultural advances throughout History and their current state with that of the modern muslim?

the 15,833 terror attacks you refer to are ALL the result of ´muslim´inbreeding? really.

Let's see generations of in-breeding and 1400-years of violent warfare and intolerant expansionsim...hmmm. Generations of in-breeding and 40-years of suicide bombers & other islamo-terrorists.

Do we see the world-wide war on everything from any other group other than muslims?Middle East, Europe, Asia, Africa, Russia, Indonesia, Thailand, Philppines-islamic war in 37+nations.

you do not see the invasions of iraq and afghanistan as TERROR ATTACKS, but that is exactly what they are

Only to criminals and international communists.

the terror attacks in OKC and NYC were carried out, not by muslims, but christians and jews

OKC TERRORISTS included muslims: John Doe # 2= Abdullah al Mujahir aka Jose Padilla

WTC TERRORISTS-ALL MUSLIMS, not Jews.

Claiming the Jews had anything to do with 9/11 is an example of psychopathic ANTI-JEWISH HATRED.

i just flushed you out into the open.

you just FLUSHED YOURSELF out in the open. again. Got ourselves another Jew-hater.

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#7.1 - Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:42 PM EDT
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